tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-632928765983902491.post71754765287994095..comments2023-05-31T08:13:57.522-06:00Comments on The Ultimate Answer to Kings: On Grossman, S.L.A. Marshall, and Sheep (Ratio of Fire)Joelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03442354270552212335noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-632928765983902491.post-49128629425906729402011-08-31T16:54:30.669-06:002011-08-31T16:54:30.669-06:00I spent half my life a Soldier. I've spent al...I spent half my life a Soldier. I've spent all my life working with Soldiers. S.L.A. Marshall's findings were and always had been bunk. The conclusions were decided then data created to support them. S.L.A. Marshall is/was a liar. The conclusions were only accepted by people that wanted to believe U.S. Soldiers don't want to and were incapable of fighting. Bunk.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18176167494666126324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-632928765983902491.post-54217043578448055542011-08-31T15:23:22.445-06:002011-08-31T15:23:22.445-06:00I've read About Face, and wish I still had it ...I've read <i>About Face</i>, and wish I still had it here because I don't recall what Hackworth said about Marshall. Judging from the Vietnam-related parts I do remember, it was probably scathing.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03442354270552212335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-632928765983902491.post-66551452027934071542011-08-31T14:42:25.602-06:002011-08-31T14:42:25.602-06:00Rest assured, the bullshit assessment is most accu...Rest assured, the bullshit assessment is most accurate.<br />That is unless your only interviewees are UC Berkeley students who grew up in the ZARDOZ like bubble existence of Irvine or Eagle Rock only to move into the bubble like campus life or hardcore Buddhist monks; most people with fight like animals when need be. <br />You've met my quiet, shy, tiny, unobtrusive wife. She'd cut your throat in a heartbeat if she had to. As would my mother and so would have my dad. Fact is dad would have done it for fun, but that's a digression. I can tell you from experience that when fired upon, most men at arms immediately revert to training and do what is necessary to get the enemy to break contact.... they fire back. <br />If all goes well they do so with discipline. If all goes as usual, they can become quite ferocious about it and there is a wall of lead in front of them.<br />Being shot at tends to first scare the shit out of you, then proceeds to piss you off.<br /><br />Marshall, and his statism are in fact..... full of shit.<br /><br />Buck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-632928765983902491.post-13533055394175682702011-08-31T14:03:37.106-06:002011-08-31T14:03:37.106-06:00If you have a copy of Hackworth's About Face h...If you have a copy of Hackworth's <i>About Face</i> handy, the chapter on his assignment squiring Marshall about Vietnam is pretty damning.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.com